Obama, Netanyahu and the Iranian Nuclear Bomb

Ten years ago, North Korea withdrew from the NPT, signaling its intention to develop nuclear weapons. It has now built and tested several nuclear bombs, has sophisticated missile technology, and could easily deliver a bomb to neighbouring South Korea. It has recently scrapped its peace agreement with South Korea. Its leadership is demonstrably mad. Its nuclear weapons program is clearly a threat to South Korea.

Did any American President ever say “America will not allow North Korea to have nuclear weapons?” No. Why not? Because they know that they could not enforce such a statement.

For three decades the Iranian leadership has been opposed to nuclear weapons on religious, humanitarian and political grounds. For two decades Netanyahu has said they are lying, and are in fact close to having a nuclear bomb. He is making a fool of himself. Clearly they have the technical ability to make such a bomb, look at how quickly they managed to develop their 20% enrichment program. If they *had* been trying to develop a bomb, they would have succeeded long ago. But American intelligence has said consistently since 2007 that they do not have a program to develop nuclear weapons, let alone a working system. American Defense and State departments have said the same thing, as have some former Israeli defence and intelligence officials. The Iranian nuclear enrichment program is not a threat to Israel, the USA, or anyone else.

President Obama has said he will not allow Iran to have nuclear weapons. Why? Because it pleases the neo-conservative ultra-Zionists in Congress, and costs him nothing. He knows he will never have to take action to enforce this promise, because Iran has no intention of obtaining such weapons.

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  • http://www.israelinitiative.com/ Yishai_Kohen

    This is from the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting Network; Iran’s state news service:

    “Ahmadinejad: Israel must be wiped off the map” (2005/10/26)

    Tehran, Oct 26 – Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday called for Israel to be “wiped off the map”.

    “The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world,” the President told a conference in Tehran entitled ‘the world without Zionism’.

    “The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land,” he said.

    “As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map,” said Ahmadinejad, referring to the late founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Imam Khomeini.

    Addressing some 4,000 students gathered in an interior ministry conference hall, Ahmadinejad also called for Palestinian unity, resistance and a point where the annihilation of the Zionist regime will come.

    “The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland,” he said.

    Regarding the Zionist regime’s retreat from the Gaza Strip he said, “we should not settle for a piece of land”.

    “Anyone who signs a treaty which recognises the entity of Israel means he has signed the surrender of the Muslim world,” Ahmadinejad said.

    “Any leaders in the Islamic umma who recognise Israel face the wrath of their own people.”…

    http://web.archive.org/web/20070708083524/http://www.iribnews.ir/Full_en.asp?news_id=200247

    • http://religion-science-peace.org/ Walk Tall Hang Loose

      Why do you keep reposting this? What it says about Iranian policy is exactly what I have been saying all along. This is how the Supreme Leader puts it on his website (english.khamenei.ir)

      “How to fight the Zionist regime.
      The usurping Zionist regime must be dealt with mainly through:
      A) Imprisoning it inside the borders of the occupied Palestinian lands, exerting political and economic pressure on it, and isolating it
      B) Ensuring the Palestinian nation’s resistance inside their country and providing them with what they need until they achieve final victory.”

      He talks only of the Zionist regime, i.e the political entity Israel, not about the Jewish people. He talks about political and economic action, and support for the Palestinian resistance. There is not even a hint of an Iranian attack on Israel, let alone nuclear bombs and genocide.

      Yishai, I say the following to you in all sincerity as one human being to another, and in the interests of peace.

      DO NOT LISTEN to the people who tell you that

      Iran is making a nuclear weapon;
      the Arabs or Persians want to drive the Jews into the sea;
      the Arabs or Persians want to kill all the Jews;
      the Arabs or Persians are intent on attacking Israel militarily;
      Israel has never declared its borders;
      Israel’s borders are undefined;
      the Partition Plan is null and void because the Arab side did not accept it;
      Israel has the right to acquire, by war, territory outside its legal borders;
      the Mandate for Palestine is still in effect and gives Israeli Jews the right to settle anywhere in former Mandatory Palestine;
      the Geneva Conventions give Israelis the right to settle in territory outside the borders of Israel which are under Israeli military occupation;

      These people are LIARS. They are atheists who have abandoned Jewish tradition. They bear false witness, they know nothing of justice, they ignore the prophet’s desire for the time when ‘swords will be beaten into plowshares’, they have forgotten that Israel should be ‘a light to the gentiles’; they worship only Jewish nationalism, they are racists and idolators, they lust after conquest, they frighten you to gain more power for themselves, and they put you in danger by telling you that you can settle in a military zone. They are destroying Israel by taking away its soul.

      Shalom to you, and shalom to Israel and Palestine.

      • http://www.israelinitiative.com/ Yishai_Kohen

        He says wipe Israel off the map and that there can be no other solution.

        If I have to decide who I trust to tell the truth; you or them, I trust them. They say what they mean.

        Consequently, they obviously won’t be allowed to develop nukes to that they can carry out what they say that they want to do.

        Shalom to Israel. “Palestine” doesn’t exist- and never will.

        Because they also chose eternal war instead.

        Oh well. that’s their choice.

        Swords will be beaten into plowshares AFTER we settle the land that G-d promised to us and AFTER our enemies accept it.

        Ezekiel 37:21: …Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, whither they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land…

        Jeremiah 31: 4 Again shalt thou plant vineyards upon the mountains of Samaria; the planters shall plant, and shall have the use thereof.

        G-d is fulfilling His promise now, and we are partners.

        When you and the rest of the world recognize this:

        Zechariah 8:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, shall even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying: We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’

        ALL swords will be beaten to plowshares; not before. You aren’t yet ready.

        Joel 4

        1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring back the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
        2 I will gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgment with them there for My people and for My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and divided My land.
        3 And they have cast lots for My people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, and have drunk.
        4 And also what are ye to Me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the regions of Philistia? will ye render retribution on My behalf? and if ye render retribution on My behalf, swiftly, speedily will I return your retribution upon your own head.
        5 Forasmuch as ye have taken My silver and My gold, and have carried into your temples My goodly treasures;
        6 the children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the sons of Jevanim, that ye might remove them far from their border;
        7 behold, I will stir them up out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your retribution upon your own head;
        8 and I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the men of Sheba, to a nation far off; for the LORD hath spoken.
        9 Proclaim ye this among the nations, prepare war; stir up the mighty men; let all the men of war draw near, let them come up.
        10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruning-hooks into spears; let the weak say: ‘I am strong.’
        11 Haste ye, and come, all ye nations round about, and gather yourselves together; thither cause Thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD!
        12 Let the nations be stirred up, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat; for there will I sit to judge all the nations round about.
        13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe; come, tread ye, for the winepress is full, the vats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
        14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
        15 The sun and the moon are become black, and the stars withdraw their shining.
        16 And the LORD shall roar from Zion, and utter His voice from Jerusalem, and the heavens and the earth shall shake; but the LORD will be a refuge unto His people, and a stronghold to the children of Israel.
        17 So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God, dwelling in Zion My holy mountain; then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.
        18 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down sweet wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the brooks of Judah shall flow with waters; and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim.
        19 Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.
        20 But Judah shall be inhabited for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.
        21 And I will hold as innocent their blood that I have not held as innocent; and the LORD dwelleth in Zion.

        • http://www.facebook.com/esther.masroman Esther Mas Roman

          Which GOD? Christian’s GOD, Roman’s GOD?
          You,who criticised women who prayed with taillit several days ago, give his lord a false name.The Torah also says “Don’t give Hashem false names” And the, do you say G-d after saying GOD with Capital Letters?

          • http://religion-science-peace.org/ Walk Tall Hang Loose

            Hello Esther, welcome to my site. I would appreciate your comments on my article The Two-Nations One-State Solution. [religion-science-peace.org/2012/08/19/rethinking-israelpalestine-the-two-nations-one-state-solution/]

          • http://www.facebook.com/esther.masroman Esther Mas Roman

            Do you think that my comment isn’t suitable in this article? I was answering to Yishai.

          • http://religion-science-peace.org/ Walk Tall Hang Loose

            Esther, you are most welcome to answer any comments on my site, and also to reply to any of my own articles.

    • http://www.facebook.com/esther.masroman Esther Mas Roman

      Why didn’t answer to the rest of messages?